In other places the English were less successful, the Butlers being beaten by the O'Carrolls in 1318, and Richard de Clare falling about the same time in the decisive battle of Dysert O'Dea.
I socialized a lot and no-one else knew because he wasn't out there in pubs falling about drunk.
Full-length coat hems may range from touching the knees to falling about one to two inches above the ankle.
