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Acceptable comma splice with two clauses
Posted: 11 September 2009 05:56 PM   [ Ignore ]
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It is generally accepted that comma splices may be used for literary effect to separate three or more independent (and usually parallel) clauses.  For example:

I came, I saw, I conquered.
We’re born, we grow, we age, we die.
I’m happy, you’re happy, everybody’s happy.
We scored first, they equalised, we got tired, they scored again, we lost.

I am interested, however, in when it is acceptable to use a comma splice when there are only two independent clauses.  I suggest this may be done in the following cases:

(a) where both clauses are very short, parallel, and spoken with little or no intervening pause:

You win some, you lose some.
It’s not yours, it’s mine.
One minute you’re alive, the next you’re dead.
Walk, don’t run.
Man proposes, God disposes.
Two’s company, three’s a crowd.

(b) where the first clause consists only of a verb (or verb phrase) in the imperative mood, functioning similarly to an interjection:

Listen, you must never do that again.
Wait, there’s something else I want to tell you.
Hang on, I haven’t finished!
Sit down, you’re rocking the boat.

A comma may, of course, be used where the entire first clause is the object of the verb (or verb phrase) in the second, with an implied “that”:

The show is rather long, I know.  [= I know that the show is rather long.]
The story was completely untrue, he claimed. [= He claimed that the story was completely untrue.]
It’s all very odd, you must admit. [= You must admit that it is all very odd.]
The internet has changed the world, there’s no doubt about it.  [= There’s no doubt that the internet has changed the world.]

Any thoughts on the above?

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Posted: 12 September 2009 01:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I agree, I agree, I agree.

In speech, we often talk like this, so it is no wonder that such rules have been placed to allow the comma splice.

B is not a comma splice, as you know. The object has just been placed in first position for effect. With regard to your first examples, I feel this is allowable seldom, with common turn of phrases being the main instances where this is acceptable.

Rules are made to be broken I guess…

Also, many sites discussing comma rules state that a comma splice is o.k. when writing two very short sentences.

I generally avoid comma splices, however, as many will not know that the rule can be broken, making me look like the idiot if I break it smile

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Posted: 12 September 2009 04:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Me too ACB, I generally though that comma are used to separate 2 or more independent, but I sometimes find myself using 7 to 8 commas in one sentence, no periods for me, well English is not my first language, still learning.

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Posted: 12 September 2009 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 12 September 2009 05:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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sundarama - 12 September 2009 04:24 PM

Me too ACB, I generally though that comma are used to separate 2 or more independent, but I sometimes find myself using 7 to 8 commas in one sentence, no periods for me, well English is not my first language, still learning.

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Posted: 12 September 2009 06:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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On a lighter note, observe the difference between the following two sentences:

1. Read all the posts in this thread, save the advertisements.
2. Read all the posts in this thread; save the advertisements.

What a difference a punctuation mark can make!

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Posted: 05 October 2009 03:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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