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What is the name of this verb tense?  Or is it a “mood”?
Posted: 17 August 2009 04:28 PM   [ Ignore ]
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(From the rite of absolution in the Roman Catholic Church)

“Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat . . . “
“May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you . . . ”

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Posted: 17 August 2009 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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et ego te absolvo, in nomini Patris, et Filii, et Spiri….....

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Posted: 17 August 2009 04:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Yes, right.  I just cut and pasted that section from the whole thing.

What I want to know is the name for the verb tense or mood or whatever—the construction “May this or that happen”

hi, Luke.

I have only three green rectangles.

But a lot of opinions.

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Posted: 17 August 2009 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I remember when I had three green rectangles, and I remember it going to four, but that was months ago.  You’ll get there. 
EGO TE ABSOLVO, A PECCATIS TUIS.
at any rate it is in the vernacular now, they tell me.
Glad you have opinions.  I have lots of them too. I taught grammar in high school, but am so tired of it, I ignore it a lot, since I have so much more I want to do in my life.  Teaching it was OK, but I
enjoyed teaching history more, especially ancient history, and I spend time on the computer doing that.  I spend maybe 1 hour to 1 1/2 hrs on this site.  That is enough. I have four rectangles and cannot
get any more I guess. So you go right ahead and ask your questions, saparris will answer them, it’s his thing, nothing else to do I guess.

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Posted: 17 August 2009 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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(From the rite of absolution in the Roman Catholic Church)

“Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat . . . “
“May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you . . . “

Hmm, modern-day Latin confession—how truly extraordinary!  According to pedagogic Lewis & Short A Latin Dictionary present tense Latin subjunctive absolvat may yet express the optative mood verb form of standard dictionary entry absolvo “absolve” with perhaps more recognizable, present indicative absolvit “he/she/it absolves” to help ring your grammatical bell.

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 17 August 2009 05:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Hi, Bandito ~

Thanks for that scholarly answer—I would never have come up with that.


I’ve read some of your posts—not to mention the things the other guys say ABOUT you in their posts.
Or was I not supposed to mention that?  : )


I can’t help but notice your signature.
I have a generally low opinion of wisdom sayings.
Is your using these remarks for your signature meant to be ironic or comic? 
Or are you (misguidedly) sincere in admiring the sentiments?

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Posted: 17 August 2009 07:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Don’t irritate the silverback! Don’t ever call a genius a scholar.

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Posted: 17 August 2009 07:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you

Many grammar sites and texts would call this subjunctive mood.

May he rest in peace.
(May) God bless you.
May the best man win.

I’m not disputing the other opinions, but I think that the idea of mood in English is becoming increasingly simplified. Indicative, imperative, interrogative, and subjunctive are about all one sees discussed these days.

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Posted: 17 August 2009 08:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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About all one uses these days. Imagine putting a text message into subjunctive or imperative?

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Posted: 17 August 2009 08:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I’m just glad we don’t have all the cases that Latin had. Except for spelling, irregular verbs, and idioms, English is pretty simple, compared to other languages.

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Posted: 18 August 2009 08:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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And don’t forget the declensions of the nouns.
I had a prof who claimed he could speak Latin. I never believed him, tho’ he spouted it profusely.

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Posted: 18 August 2009 08:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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cosmicmeeting - 17 August 2009 05:40 PM

Hi, Bandito ~

Thanks for that scholarly answer—I would never have come up with that.

For not only is stark genuine originality a well recognized virtue here, but overt plagiarism also happens to rub against statutary law.

I’ve read some of your posts—not to mention the things the other guys say ABOUT you in their posts.
Or was I not supposed to mention that?  : )

All good chances are I probably could not stop you even if I wanted to.

I can’t help but notice your signature.
I have a generally low opinion of wisdom sayings.
Is your using these remarks for your signature meant to be ironic or comic? 
Or are you (misguidedly) sincere in admiring the sentiments?

Just wisdom & scripture, mind you, and if it contains any trace amount of heartfelt sentiment I am surely unaware of it—perhaps better luck awaits you on those retarded TV soaps!

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 18 August 2009 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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bandito - 18 August 2009 08:54 AM
cosmicmeeting - 17 August 2009 05:40 PM

Hi, Bandito ~

I can’t help but notice your signature.
I have a generally low opinion of wisdom sayings.
Is your using these remarks for your signature meant to be ironic or comic? 
Or are you (misguidedly) sincere in admiring the sentiments?

Just wisdom & scripture, mind you, if it contains any trace amount of heartfelt sentiment I am surely unaware of it—perhaps better luck awaits you on retarded TV soaps!

What?  Whatwhatwhat? What does that even mean, Bandito?

(sulking) My post was a throwdown!  Yes!  A challenge! 
A dare to debate the merits of your quotes specifically —or Wee Wisdomettes in general.

But I’m stymied by the opacity of your response.

Dang.

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Posted: 18 August 2009 09:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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bandito - 18 August 2009 08:54 AM
cosmicmeeting - 17 August 2009 05:40 PM

Hi, Bandito ~

Thanks for that scholarly answer—I would never have come up with that.

For not only is stark genuine originality a well recognized virtue here, but overt plagiarism also happens to rub against statutary law.

I’ve read some of your posts—not to mention the things the other guys say ABOUT you in their posts.
Or was I not supposed to mention that?  : )

All good chances are I probably could not stop you even if I wanted to.

I can’t help but notice your signature.
I have a generally low opinion of wisdom sayings.
Is your using these remarks for your signature meant to be ironic or comic? 
Or are you (misguidedly) sincere in admiring the sentiments?

Just wisdom & scripture, mind you, and if it contains any trace amount of heartfelt sentiment I am surely unaware of it—perhaps better luck awaits you on those retarded TV soaps!


Yes!!! Finally someone who agrees with me!! “Guiding Light” is going off the air, after 72 years (even before TV).  I’d place the average sitcom in the same category.

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Posted: 18 August 2009 11:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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cosmicmeeting - 18 August 2009 09:09 AM

(sulking) My post was a throwdown!  Yes!  A challenge! 
A dare to debate the merits of your quotes specifically —or Wee Wisdomettes in general.

But I’m stymied by the opacity of your response.

Dang.

If you want to get emotional, go watch a college football game!  On the other hand, if you feel like debating then I suggest you bone up right away on your formal dialectics and institutional rhetoric—because such hand-me-down expletives as contemptible “dang” will surely bear no good & decent fruit here.

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 18 August 2009 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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So true, in fact the word ‘friggen’ is discussed elsewhere. A definite hand me down expletive on some dumb sitcom.

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