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Posted: 24 July 2009 08:00 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I recently learned the game, which in the past I dreaded learning, so I didn’t bother learning it.

This main clause is within the relative clause. Is it o.k. to have that construction?

Is there a name for it? (complex relative clause smile)

(Obviously you could re-write it and make it “, which I din’t bother learning, because I dreaded learning it”, but I’m not concerned about improving the sentence)


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Posted: 24 July 2009 08:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I recently learned the game, which in the past I dreaded learning, so I didn’t bother learning it.

This sentence is not a main clause within a relative clause. It’s a compound sentence with a non-restrictive relative clause occurring after the first main clause.

It is possible to have a dependent clause within a main clause, the most common being relative adjective clauses (e.g., My brother, who lives in Ohio, is an attorney).

You can also have adverbial clause in the middle.

I finally acquired, after I had saved money for two years, the last piece in the collection.

There should be a reason for this structure, which is typically for emphasis.

But what did you really mean to ask?

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Posted: 24 July 2009 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I recently learned the game, which in the past I dreaded learning, so I didn’t bother learning it.

This sentence is not a main clause within a relative clause. It’s a compound sentence with a non-restrictive relative clause occurring after the first main clause.

It is possible to have a dependent clause within a main clause, the most common being relative adjective clauses (e.g., My brother, who lives in Ohio, is an attorney).

You can also have adverbial clause in the middle.

I finally acquired, after I had saved money for two years, the last piece in the collection.

There should be a reason for this structure, which is typically for emphasis.


The examples you give are all obvious to me, and I’m sure you know that I know these constructions you state. I don’t mean ‘within’ exactly.

What I mean is that the relative clause is needed for the next part to make sense. I didn’t bother learning it because I dreaded learning it in the past. I’ll try think of another example:

I recently went to the playground, where I broke my leg, so I cried most of the time.

This one depends more clearly on the relative clause’s existence than the first example I gave you.

See what I mean? The last main clause is sort of as a result of what is said in the relative clause (rather than the first main clause) and has nothing to do with the first main clause.

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Posted: 24 July 2009 09:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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That’s a better example. What you’re saying is this:

“I recently went to the playground, where I broke my leg, so I cried most of the time” shows more cause and effect than “I broke my leg when I went to the playground, so I cried most of the time.”

I don’t think there is a name for it, but it’s not incorrect. I don’t think many sentences would benefit from this structure, though

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Posted: 25 July 2009 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I recently went to the playground, where I broke my leg, so I cried most of the time.


Is this not a comma splice, however?

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Posted: 25 July 2009 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I recently went to the playground, where I broke my leg, so I cried most of the time.

The where makes the second clause dependent. The so makes the sentence compound. So, no.

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Posted: 25 July 2009 10:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Soryy, don’t know what I was thinking about when I asked that. Clearly isn’t.

Once again, an example of my not thinking. Don’t know if you can blame me though. I wrote that in the morning after a night of vodka-a nasty drink!

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Posted: 25 July 2009 11:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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But this no excuse either, since it has been proven that alcohol drinking does not kill brain cells. So I’ll just blame my sporadic brain lapses.

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Posted: 26 July 2009 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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But this no excuse either, since it has been proven that alcohol drinking does not kill brain cells. So I’ll just blame my sporadic brain lapses.

Put a comma before SO instead of a period, and you would have a duplicate construction of the sentence in question.

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