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Posted: 14 July 2009 02:12 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Would you mind if I come up for a visit soon?
I wonder if her sister were named Sue.

Both if clauses are placed in the object slot.
Can they function as nominal?

One more question: I have studying to do.

Since ‘studying’ function as noun, can the function of ‘to do’ be adjectival modifying ‘studying’ or object of the gerund ‘studying’, thus, nominal?

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Posted: 14 July 2009 06:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Would you mind if I come up for a visit soon?
I wonder if her sister were named Sue.

Both if clauses are placed in the object slot.
Can they function as nominal?

I refrain from using such terms as ‘if clause’ and ‘that clause’ for the simple reason that they are ambiguous. And this sentence shows why.

Like a ‘that clause,’ which can be both a relative and noun clause, an ‘if clause’ can function both adverbally and nominally.

Generally, ‘whether’ is used instead of ‘if’ when it is a nominal clause. But this is not to say that this is incorrect.

And, to my knowledge, this is definitely a noun clause, the direct object of the verb to wonder.

Many would make the mistake and state that it is adverbial, because a)it looks like it modifies the verb ‘wonder’ b)it is an ‘if clause’ which most commonly is an adverbial clause.

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Posted: 14 July 2009 07:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Would you mind if I come up for a visit soon?
I wonder if her sister were named Sue.

I believe that the first sentence contains and adverbial clause. Rewrite the sentence, “If I come up for a visit, would you mind?” and it works as an adverb.
The second sentence looks more nominal and is probably a casual version of “I wonder whether her sister is named Sue.” [not were named]

I have studying to do.

Studying is a gerund modified my the adjective phrase to do.

See http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/627/03/

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Posted: 15 July 2009 09:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Thanks for the explanations.

I am reading a novel and found many such sentences that sound ungrammatical to me.
Not that I don’t understand the meaning but that I want to make sure what I understand is correct.

By the way, ‘what’ clause can modify adjective ‘sure’ like ‘that’ clause??

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Posted: 15 July 2009 09:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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By the way, ‘what’ clause can modify adjective ‘sure’ like ‘that’ clause??

I would need to see examples.

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Posted: 16 July 2009 12:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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saparris - 15 July 2009 09:41 PM

By the way, ‘what’ clause can modify adjective ‘sure’ like ‘that’ clause??

I would need to see examples.

I just said it one post ago;
Not that I don’t understand the meaning but that I want to make sure what I understand is correct.

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Posted: 16 July 2009 07:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Not that I don’t understand the meaning but that I want to make sure what I understand is correct.

”...what I understand is correct” is a relative clause modifying the adjective sure. The relative pronoun that is missing but understood (i.e., “I want to make sure [that] what I understand in correct”).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_clause for more examples.

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Posted: 16 July 2009 09:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Thanks for reviving the gone and forgotten ‘that’.

Now with ‘that’, I can get that.

Thank you again.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 07:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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No problem. That’s that.

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