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debbymoge - 03 July 2009 09:07 PM

“I’m melting…”  all my beautiful badness…  wicked witch in wizard of oz… ?

no berries and no sharp points?  what good is it then????????

Thank you, it was familiar from somewhere, but could not quite place my finger on it. Appreciate it.

saparris - 03 July 2009 03:54 PM

Here’s the hedge. A work in progress.

Looks more like the Great Wall of China, than a hedge.  You could just let Kudzu cover it, then you’d solve to problems with one solution:
  l) cover hedge
  2) have ready supply for juleps.

“I’m melting…”  all my beautiful badness…  wicked witch in wizard of oz… ?

I think you’re right.

I only saw it (Wizard of Oz) once, so nothing much stuck in my mind.  But I’d be doing more than melting if I had a hedge like that.  Ever hear of “Round Up”?

I hope the perception of depth, distance to the end of the hedge, is an illusion of the camera. 

Besides, aren’t there evenings and mornings there?  cooler?  at least relatively?

Or do you then become a moveable feast…

There is no misperception. The hedge goes from the street to the back of the house., which is about 80 feet. And, yes, the middle of the day is not ideal.

Kudzu and Roundup: salvation from nature and science.

About hedges, did you see the one that the man turned into a line of elephants that was on Yahoo the other day? A nice way to tame a hedge!

About the subjunctive (are you sitting down?) - from my teaching of ESL, it is a bit more organized than just bits and pieces.

There is a whole list of verbs that bespeak necessity, obligation and requirement that take the subjunctive, but it only really ‘shows’ up, for the lack of ‘s,’ in the third person singular. Most of these have other constructions that obviate the need for the sujunctive. I put together a list of about 25 - I am sure that it is not complete. However, there is ‘as if’ and ‘as though’ (He looks as though he has seen a ghost.). Then of course (already mentioned above) there is the second conditional (Were we to discuss this further, we might rue the day.) However, there is more.

I have a list of these ‘unreal tenses’ that is based on the information garnered from an EFL book published by Express Publishing in Greece. The author, who rechristened herself Virginia Evans from Virgeenia Pagoulatou-Vlachou (for good reasons if you want to sell your very brilliant EFL material out of country), got native speakers to put together a compendium of things like the subjunctive, which she quite intelligently renamed the ‘unreal’ tenses. Ms. Evans’ books for preparing people for the British Proficiency are treasure troves (Use of English, Vol 1, CPE). I am not ‘selling her’, but sharing the information. These subjunctive structures are:

I wish
As if/as though
If only
I’d rather
Supposing
Even if
It’s about time

That’s my contribution.

We all may rue the day.

Look, Saparris, you have someone to discuss subjunctive with and not bothering me with it.

I noticed, and I will.

About the subjunctive

Welcome to the forum. I find the use of the subjunctive sadly lacking in common expressions (“If I was you,” for example), where it is very easy to tell the difference. The harder uses to notice, as you point out, are past subjunctives that are not in the third-person singular. 

As a student of Spanish, I find the use of the subjunctive much more common, although I am not sure why.

Again, welcome. Maybe we can team up on Luke.

God bless you (subjunctive mood)

I am an EFL teacher, although we call it ESOL.

esol,  english second official language?

We find out more and mor

saparris - 04 July 2009 06:07 PM

About the subjunctive

Welcome to the forum. I find the use of the subjunctive sadly lacking in common expressions (“If I was you,” for example), where it is very easy to tell the difference. The harder uses to notice, as you point out, are past subjunctives that are not in the third-person singular. 

As a student of Spanish, I find the use of the subjunctive much more common, although I am not sure why.

Again, welcome. Maybe we can team up on Luke.

God bless you (subjunctive mood)

I am an EFL teacher, although we call it ESOL.

There is more and more to learn about you every day.  No wonder you are so obsessed with this subjunctive business. Gang up all you want, I’m up to it.