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Posted: 20 March 2009 01:46 PM   [ Ignore ]
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please, can you tell this idiom in a more literary - archaic language?
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Posted: 20 March 2009 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yea, but I would hardly call it archaic: “to irritate” = to “excite to some characteristic action or condition, such as motion, contraction, or nervous impulse, by the application of a stimulus; ‘irritate the glands of a leaf’”* 

*WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 21 March 2009 02:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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And there is not any literary idiom? irritate is just too short, when I translate.

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Posted: 21 March 2009 06:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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How about: “become a pain in the neck”?

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Posted: 21 March 2009 08:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Oh,
would you put it into a fairy tale e.g. by Hans Christian Andersen?

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Posted: 21 March 2009 09:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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. . . possible “to get on someone’s nerves” synomyms:

1.  to rub someone the wrong way
2.  to rattle someone’s (rib)cage
3.  to give someone a hard time
4.  to offend someone’s spleen (like in Shakespeare)
5.  to make someone chafe
6.  to provoke someone’s ire/animus
7.  to give someone the creeps*
8.  to try someone’s patience
9.  to drive someone insane

etc.

*n.b. “heebie-jeebies” perhaps too ethnopolemic here!

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 21 March 2009 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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thank you, I will use the third one

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Posted: 22 March 2009 08:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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8. to be a pain in the neck.
And yes I’d put it in a fairy tale similar to Hans Christian Anderson, just as much as any of bandito’s seven above. thank you.
Must be an interesting fairy tale to have a person in a cage in order to rattle it.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 08:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I wanted to use the 4th one…...

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Posted: 22 March 2009 08:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Sorry, but I don’t see that you made yourself very clear in the first place. Are you writing a fairy tale? Above you said you would use the 3rd of bandito’s suggestions, now the 4th one. I was only
trying to help. Sorry if I upset you.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I made a mistake, I wanted to write 4, but typed 3.

I´m translating Slovak folk fairy tales by Dobšinský into English, and it´s extremely difficult because there is a very old-fashioned language, it´s very formal, archaic. No one speaks like that now and I want it to be authentic. Therefore I asked for literary idioms or vocabulary.

And I am really thankful for all the suggestions.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 09:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I guess I really will thank you a lot, it helps to know that.  Just making a suggestion without knowing where it is going is difficult.  Please don’t be put off on the site because of my misunderstanding.
I would imagine the translation to be difficult.  Is it just a hobby or an academic Pursuit?  And always, always ask for help here, sometimes two heads are better than one, even if the other one is mine.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Oh, thank you for your words.
I´m soooory for the misunderstandings.
It is my job and hobby as well. But now I am learning French intensely, so I put aside my English a bit and I can see that it is deteriorating….  I would like to ask so many things, sometimes just to be sure, but I didn´t want to bother. But I think I will ask for help again, because the stories are really difficult. And I have to finish them by the end of the next week.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 09:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Feel free, and if you don’t want to be a bother on the public forum, use the PM private message to me or anyone.
If I don’t know, I’ll ask someone as well, and get back to you. 
Terrific hobby by the way.  I used to teach French, but it is very deteriorated, out of use for too many years.

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Posted: 22 March 2009 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I don´t want to create a new topic each time I have a little question, so can I ask you here at this place, whether I can say about a person that she is abandoned, when no one cares that she exists, she is not interesting for anybody any more?
And can I say that you throw a dog out on a dump?
Here is the sentence, this is not in a fairy tale, but one person speaks about his feelings when his grandmother used to read him the fairy tale of a dog Bodrik:
I cried so often inconsolably at the moment when Bodrík was thrown out onto a dump and I would look at my grand mother as if it was her who had to leave abandoned into oblivion.
Thanks a lot for help

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Posted: 22 March 2009 02:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I think so.
Perhaps just a little “cleaning up” of the sentence:
I cried inconsolably when Bodrik was thrown out, like being tossed onto a dump. And I would look at my grandmother as if it were she who had to leave, abandoned into oblivion.
{Of course I don’t know the context of the work, but this seems OK to me.}
Others may come and clean up my sentence, however, and so much the better.

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