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Posted: 05 February 2009 11:03 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Apologies if this topic has been covered already. I’m terribly frustrated by the word “that” in contexts like this:

She said (that) she was going to the store.

Is there a rule about when it should be used???

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Posted: 07 February 2009 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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In most cases the word ‘that’ is optional; you can put it in or leave it out without affecting the meaning.  The shorter the sentence, the better it is to leave it out.  So I would say:

She said she was going to the store.

In longer sentences, it is usually clearer to put it in.  For example:

She told all her friends at the office that she was going to the store.

Sometimes you have to put it in to avoid ambiguity, e.g:

She said that at 3 o’clock she was going to the store.
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She said at 3 o’clock that she was going to the store.

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Posted: 07 February 2009 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Thank you kindly! I really appreciate the response.

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Posted: 08 February 2009 11:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Hello adamoka.
Be welcome, contribute again.

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Posted: 11 February 2009 10:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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“According to her, she was going to the store.”

1.  No unstylish repetition of singular “she” pronoun

2.  Discretionary use of phrase “according to + (object)” formula precludes the stifling precocious question of whether to use introductory particle “that”

3.  Such erudite language obviously better suited to written Eng. style or formal cross-examination anywhere.

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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