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Posted: 06 January 2009 10:22 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Discuss amuck here.

RUNNING AMUCK (or more properly Amok), the native term for the homicidal mania which attacks Malays. A Malay will suddenly and apparently without reason rush into the street armed with a kris or other weapon, and slash and cut at everybody he meets till he is killed. These frenzies were formerly regarded as due to sudden insanity. It is now, however, certain that the typical amok is the result of circumstances, such as domestic jealousy or gambling losses, which render a Malay desperate and weary of his life. It is, in fact, the Malay equivalent of suicide. “The act of running amuck is probably due to causes over which the culprit has some amount of control, as the custom has now died out in the British possessions in the peninsula, the offenders probably objecting to being caught and tried in cold blood” (W. W. Skeat).

Though so intimately associated with the Malay there is some ground for believing the word to have an Indian origin, and the act is certainly far from unknown in Indian history. Some notable cases have occurred among the Rajputs. Thus, in 1634, the eldest son of the raja of Jodhpur ran amuck at the court of Shah Jahan, failing in his attack on the emperor, but killing five of his officials. During the r 8th century, again, at Hyderabad (Sind), two envoys, sent by the Jodhpur chief in regard to a quarrel between the two states, stabbed the prince and twentysix of his suite before they themselves fell.

In Malabar there were certain professional assassins known to old travelers as Amouchi or Amuco. The nearest modern equivalent to these words would seem to be the Malayalim Amarkhan, ” a warrior” (from amar,” fight”). The Malayalim term shaver applied to these ruffians meant literally those “who devote themselves to death.” In Malabar was a custom by which the zamorin or king of Calicut had to cut his throat in public when he had reigned twelve years. In the r7th century a variation in his fate was made. He had to take his seat, after a great feast lasting twelve days, at a national assembly, surrounded by his armed suite, and it was lawful for anyone to attack him, and if he succeeded in killing him the murderer himself became zamorin (see Alex. Hamilton, “A new Account of the East Indies,” in Pinkerton’s Voyages and Travels, viii. 374). In 1600 thirty would-be assassins were killed in their attempts. These men were called Amar-khan, and it has been suggested that their action was “running amuck” in the true Malay sense. Another proposed derivation for amouchi is Sanskrit amokshya, ” that cannot be loosed,” suggesting that the murderer was bound by a vow, an explanation more than once advanced for the Malay amuck; but amokshya in such a sense is unknown in Malayalim.

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[It has no connection with the English word muck; but is from the Malay amuk = engaging furiously in battle, attacking with desperate resolution, rushing in a state of frenzy to the commission of indiscriminate murder. (See the definition ) Applied to an animal or a man in a state of violent rage. (Marsden: Malayan Dictionary 1812)]

In such a sate as that described above. Used only in the expression To run a muck or amuck, which means to rush, under the influence of opium or “bhang” (an intoxicating drug made from hemp), out of one’s house into the street, armed with a sword, a dagger, or other lethal weapon, and kill every one—man, woman, or child—who cannot with sufficient promptitude escape. This maniacal and inhuman method of venting rage is mostly confined to the Malays; or if practiced by other races, it scarcely ever passes beyond the limits of the Mohammedan world.

To run amuck: To fall foul of. (Literally and figuratively)

To lose control of oneself and behave outrageously or violently.

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In a violent or frenzied manner: used only in the phrase below. Amuck formerly was sometimes written as two words, being regarded as noun and article.

[< Malay amoq, “engaging furiously in battle.”]

to run amuck

To run about frantically killing or trying to kill everybody one meets, as is done sometimes by frenzied Malays; hence, to make an indiscriminate attack; followed by at, against, of, with; as to run amuck at society.

“While we were there at Penang, a Malay ran amok . . .stabbing and slashing and spattering the bamboos with blood.” - J.W. Palmer

“We wonder . . . that he [Burns] did not grow utterly frantic, and run amuck against them all.” - Carlyle

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Word Detective
Time Magazine December 7, 1931

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Posted: 07 January 2009 07:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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It is my understanding that “amok” is the only word that English has borrowed from the Malay language. Can anyone verify this assertion?

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Posted: 07 January 2009 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It seems correct to say that. But it may be wrong. English has borrowed some words from a lot of other countries (many of which have the same meaning). Unless proven wrong, I’d say you are correct. cheese

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Posted: 07 January 2009 11:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Krysstal.com lists 23 English words borrowed from Malay (including ‘amok’).

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Posted: 07 January 2009 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Thank you ACB. That is a source I was unaware of. Their list appears much more complete. I was sceptical that English would have borowed only one word from that language.

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Posted: 07 January 2009 12:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Sean Matsuko -
[quote author=“ACB” date=“1231382868”>Krysstal.com lists 23 English words borrowed from Malay (including ‘amok’). I stand corrected…
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Posted: 08 January 2009 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I think one point which is not being addressed with regard to this word, or expression, is how did it get into English? When I was in the southern islands of the Philippines (1970), in the Muslim areas (Mindanao, Palawan, and other islands further to the south), I was told that the expression, “to run amok,” came from that region, and had been taken into American English through the America presence there beginning in 1898 or so. It would be similiar to “boondok,” which we use as in, “out in the boondoks,” or “boonies,” which comes from the Tagalog word, “boondok,” which means “mountains,” I believe.

I need to apologize to Vikki, whose account I did not read as carefully as I should have, particularly the reference to Skeat’s comment. But the note about running amok in 1634 in India…isn’t the key point there not so much the activity, but the term which was used to describe it? Was such a term as ‘running amok’ used in 1634 to describe this form of killing?

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Posted: 08 January 2009 08:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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With respect to the transition to English, the website Phrases.org (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/run-amok.html) in their description of the etymology of the phrase quotes Captain James Cook from 1772.

Captain James Cook, in his account of his travels in that part of the world - Voyages, 1772, gives an explicit definition of ‘run amok’:

“To run amock is to get drunk with opium… to sally forth from the house, kill the person or persons supposed to have injured the Amock, and any other person that attempts to impede his passage.”

This would indicate a long history of the word from its relatively initial contact with English.

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Posted: 08 January 2009 09:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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interesting! and thanks for the reference,
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Posted: 12 January 2009 04:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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ACB - 07 January 2009 11:47 AM

Krysstal.com lists 23 English words borrowed from Malay (including ‘amok’).


Thanks ACB for another great site !
Luke

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