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Posted: 12 July 2005 05:56 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I did a search and I could not find any results that came close to this so I ask of you all: Does any body have any tips on learning how to speak/read Japanese?

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I strongly suggest you start learning kanji from the outset.  Don’t trust your Japanese teachers, who’ll most probably tell you you can always do that later.  That’s a waste of time and the real world is not as nice to you as your Japanese teacher is.  Besides, having a good command of kanjis will increase your vocabulary in ways that you would never imagine.  Try to learn at least one two kanjis every day and you’ll do fine.  Also look out for them damn postpositions, especially de and ni, they can be tricky and the Japanese (at least the Japanese book writers) like to quiz you on that.

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I wrote a simple dyke and the censor shushed me?  Sheesh.

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Lesbian?  I didn’t write lesbian, I wrote dyke, shesh again.  What about all those walls that prevent flooding?  I wouldn’t say they are lesbians, are they?  Sheesh…

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Come on!  I wrote d y k e.  Sheesh…

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Should I learn them in any sort of order?

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Posted: 12 July 2005 07:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Yes, kanji books normally list the simplest first and move on to the most complicated ones.  Besides, you don’t need to learn all of them.  They’re over 50,000 of them that have been created.  I’ve heard that there are 8,000 in current use in China and 1,945 in Japan.  Those 1,945 are the ones you should learn in order to read anything in Japanese.

Take a look at these sites: http://kanji.zinbun.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~yasuoka/kanjibukuro/japan-joyo.html


http://www.rikai.com

http://www.kanjiclinic.com/links.htm

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Posted: 28 July 2005 02:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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The best way to learn any language is the way you learned your native one: by speaking and listening. Did your mother teach you by writing? No that comes later, after a basic grounding in speech. Ganymede

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Posted: 28 July 2005 02:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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That would be true in an ideal world, but a lot of your skills are lost after you grow up, and the circumstances are not the same any more.

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Posted: 28 July 2005 06:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I agree, Ganymede, but we don’t always have the opportunity to learn a language that way.  Besides, as BD already stated, when you learned your native language, you were much younger.  I hope. wink

Sometimes I wish I had a secret button I could press that would make everyone around me speak a different language that I wanted to learn… And on rare occasions I wish I had a button that would just make everyone shut up.

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Posted: 28 July 2005 07:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Hahahahahaha.

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