Does anyone have any thoughts on why a man and a woman who are speaking the same language often have no idea what the other person is saying?

VB

a)
they don’t agree on the meaning of words
b)
their grammar is vastly different
c)
they come from a different side of the tracks
d)
i have no idea

hi.
-melissa

I don’t talk about that sort of thing in mixed company, oops, I mean I don’t think that is true when in mixed company, oops, I mean…..men are deaf dolts and women know what men really mean, because they are angelic mind-readers who have every right to get angry, because men should get hearing aids, so they can hear the stupidity that comes out of their mouths, because a woman cannot be expected to mind read an empty mind, well, empty of anything, but maybe ugly images…

Sitran

tip: C and D are always a good bet. If you want to get into a good college. The correct answer is always E.

Haha, Sitran…
Clever!

Yes, Bellator, just… you’re wrong… and will always be
wrong… /kidding
’ Uhm… idk, societal conditioning is different? Maybe…

Ha,
-J

I can see human society as two distinct interlocking societies that are really only tangent at coitus and its surrounding cultural rituals.  And there just barely!

Sitran

I thought this would be thought-(discussion-) provoking!

There are three universal realities: patriarchy, male attainment, and male dominance.  The very fact that patriarchy and male dominance are as well represented in societies that dislike these institutions as in societies that value them indicates the irrelevance of attitudes.

One cannot transcend one’s fate until one has accepted it.  Women who deny their natures, who accept men’s secondhand definitions and covet a state of second-rate manhood, are forever condemned.  Sex is the single most decisive determinant of personal identity; it is the first thing we notice about another person and the last thing we forget.  It is terribly self-destructive to refuse to accept one’s own nature and the joys and powers it invests.

Don’t Think You Can Really Change Anything!

Sitran

But this might be more topical:

"For males, conversation is the way you negotiate your status in the group and keep people from pushing you around; you use talk to preserve your independence. Females, on the other hand, use conversation to negotiate closeness and intimacy; talk is the essence of intimacy, so being best friends means sitting and talking. For boys, activities, doing things together, are central. Just sitting and talking is not an essential part of friendship. They’re friends with the boys they do things with." -Tannen

One may get the impression from this discussion that women’s style of communicating is superior to men’s. Indeed, since the dawning of the women’s movement there have been many declaring that men just don’t know how to communicate (because they don’t communicate like women). Sensitivity courses galore have been offered in hopes of teaching men to communicate more like women. However, Tannen states that there is nothing pathological about men’s style of communication, and that women’s communicating also has it’s down-sides.

You Just Don’t Understand

Sitran

Or this:

Well, scratch the surface and what you’ll find is a very biased female attitude. It turns out that when women say, "Men can’t communicate," what they really mean is, "Men can’t communicate the way women communicate with each other." But to a man, women can’t communicate at all.

Why Women Can’t Communicate Clearly

1- Women never say what they really mean.

2- Women focus on talking, not finding solutions.

3- Women think with their emotions. ("They think and speak in estrogen .")

4- Women expect men to be mind readers (and punish them when they’re not).

Sitran

Good points, Kt!  Well said!

Sitran