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Posted: 07 June 2006 12:36 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Main Entry:
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): -s
Etymology: Norwegian troll & Danish trold, from Old Norse troll giant, fiend, demon; akin to Middle High German trolle ghostly monster, boor, lout, trollen to run with short steps, Old Norse tramr demon, monster, Middle High German tremen to totter, stagger, Middle Low German trampen to stamp, tread, Old English treppan to tread—more at TRAP
: a supernatural being in Germanic and Scandinavian folklore and mythology having sometimes the form of a dwarf and sometimes of a giant and inhabiting caves or hills.

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"An Internet ‘troll’ is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don’t "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their ‘achievement’ (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words."

From the DSM
ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER
http://www.accg.net/antisocial.htm

SYMPTOMS

"The signs and symptoms include:
Lack of concern regarding society’s rules and expectations.
Repeated violations of the rights of others.
Unlawful behavior.
Lack of regard for the truth
In parents, neglect or abuse of children.
Lack of a steady job.  Frequent job changes through quitting and/or being fired
Tendencies toward physical aggression and extreme irritability. "

TREATMENT
"Currently, there is no widely accepted effective method of treating sociopathic personality types.  They tend to be very manipulative during treatment and tend to lie and cover up personal faults in themselves and have little insight into their behavior patterns.  They tend to exhibit short-term enthusiasm for treatment, particularly after an incident which has brought them into contact with society or the law, however, once this anxiety is relieved and reduced, they frequently drop out of treatment and fall back into the same sociopathic patterns that brought them into treatment initially.  In most cases, the prognosis remains unfavorable throughout the individual’s life-span. "

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Posted: 07 June 2006 02:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Sounds like Greendog…

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Posted: 07 June 2006 04:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I don’t know greendog, I was wondering if our moderator’s look-alike is not an example of this disorder.

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Posted: 08 June 2006 01:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I’m pretty sure the moderator/administrator’s handle was hyjacked, but see the ‘pot calling the kettle ...hot’ threads in the Idiom section for a good example of greendog’s impact and one of the reasons this forum did the Phoenix thing.  
It looked like Greendog was a Troll/socio-path.

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Posted: 08 June 2006 04:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I’m absolutely certain that the moderator’s id was highjacked. That’s why I called the Troll a "look a-like". The underscore in his user name gave him away as an imposter. Trolls seem to believe they’re being clever with their user names, but really, they’re idiots.

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Posted: 08 June 2006 07:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Okay, prosyncophant,
I spent a little time reviewing the last posts on the "pot calling the kettle hot" thread. Maybe it’s just me but I get the impression that greendog is just barely coherent. It was difficult to make sense out of what s/he was trying to say.
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Posted: 08 June 2006 10:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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That was my impression also, but careful he may return.  

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Posted: 08 June 2006 09:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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If so I will do my best to ignore him.

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Posted: 04 February 2008 05:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I wonder if there has been much if any trolling that has gone on in this forum?

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The creature was about fifty feet tall, with wide lapels, long dangling participles, & a pronounced gazetteer. 
“Aiyee!” shouted Legolam. “A Thesaurus!” “Maim!” roared the monster. “Mutilate, mangle, crush. See HARM.”

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Posted: 04 February 2008 05:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I wonder if there has been much if any trolling that has gone on in this forum?

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The creature was about fifty feet tall, with wide lapels, long dangling participles, & a pronounced gazetteer. 
“Aiyee!” shouted Legolam. “A Thesaurus!” “Maim!” roared the monster. “Mutilate, mangle, crush. See HARM.”

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Posted: 04 February 2008 06:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Trolling ?  More drollery really, although the dearth of postings of late suggests that Bandito has fallen of his trolley (or maybe lurking, troll-like, beneath the bridge).

Are you referring to the daily increments of subscribers with what look like randomly generated usernames and no contributions ?

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Posted: 04 February 2008 07:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Two erudite neophytes, observant “saparris” has recently expressed germane curiosity in American regionalisms and newcomer “plato” himself in corrupt & imported forms.  Though since moved on, logodaedalist “frank” bravely touted his polyglot omniscience, as well as copious knowledge of general etymology.  At the same time, logomaniac “anders” generously used to share his profound intuition of both Nordic languages and various Eurasian linguistics.  So it’s mostly a typical case of just trolling about here, before inquisitively "hunting" for other queer fish elsewhere on the vast, infinite, cybernetic ocean.

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 05 February 2008 06:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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A forum that sparkles with the contributions of the Wireless Bard, Bandito !!!!

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Posted: 06 February 2008 03:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Yea verily, but unrestrained flattery will always get you nowhere, my dear fellow!

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkōl hâvel Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important!  Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 06 February 2008 06:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I dunno about that Mr B -  unrestrained Flatley did quite well with "Riverdance"......

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Posted: 21 June 2008 03:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I find trolls to be a total pain and then some!

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