Agora Forums
 
   
 
a coon’s age
Posted: 17 February 2004 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]
Newbie
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  7
Joined  2003-03-10

Y’all, this was an expression we used in North Carolina when I was growing up;  e.g. "I haven’t seen her in a coon’s age!"
I recently used the term as above and was told it was racist. This was quite a shock! I thought the expression referred to a raccoon and meant something like "10 years or so " (i.e. the lifespan of a raccoon).
Any ideas on this? Thanks! Bob

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 February 2004 09:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  3773
Joined  2002-08-01

Bob, the answer I am about to give is not meant to be a tongue-in-cheek, thoughtless response, but it is simple nonetheless.

I never heard that expression as racist in any way (I grew up in NC, too, and live here even now).  Unfortunately, people can take almost any expression and turn it into something sordid or offensive—if at least to themselves.

If enough people accept and perpetuate the sordid/offensive meaning, then what does the word or expression really mean?

So it goes back to the old saying: "Know your audience."

-Tim

 Signature 

For myself, I find I become less cynical rather than more… and realize that men’s hearts are not often as bad as their acts, and very seldom as bad as their words. - JRR Tolkien

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 February 2004 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  157
Joined  2003-09-09

i agree with tim, except that, growing up in alabama, i was aware of the racist connotation of the term.  

on a more official note, the OED says:

a coon’s age: emphatic for "a long time".

it was first seen in print in 1844.

apparently, early on, "coon" could refer to a "sly, knowing fellow."  the first published use of this meaning was in 1832.  thirty years later, it was first employed as  derogatory slang for "negro."

as for whether to use it…it definitely depends on your company.  i am certainly known to toe the line when it comes to appropriateness, but i wouldn’t use it in most circles.  as a matter of fact, i’d only use it with some of my best friends who KNOW i’m not a racist.  and usually, if i have to put that much thought into something, i just don’t do it at all!

hope this helps.

david

 Signature 

ai pente odegusai archai:&&&&agnot;ês, aphesis, apheidia, mê philautia, tapeinophrosunê

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 February 2004 09:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  2623
Joined  2003-02-22

coon’s age

Sitran

 Signature 

“Science in its ideology sees itself as doing a fearless exploration of the unknown. Most of the time it is a fearful exploration of the almost known.”&&&&- Rupert Sheldrake &&&&

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 February 2004 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  2623
Joined  2003-02-22

It was just about a year ago that I joined.  So even with my infrequent absences, I have posted about 100 posts a month!  At that rate it will take me 8 more months to reach 2000.  This is #1199.

Sitran

 Signature 

“Science in its ideology sees itself as doing a fearless exploration of the unknown. Most of the time it is a fearful exploration of the almost known.”&&&&- Rupert Sheldrake &&&&

Profile
 
 
Posted: 17 February 2004 03:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  277
Joined  2004-01-12

Brings to mind one’s coonass heritage
www.coonass.com

 Signature 

Half of infinity is still infinite

Profile
 
 
   
 
 
‹‹ You asked for it...      Jerry or Jury ››