Agora Forums
 
   
 
instead of being nasty…
Posted: 09 June 2003 11:54 AM   [ Ignore ]
Newbie
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  1
Joined  2003-06-09

There’s a term for euphemisms applied specifically in substitution for words that would otherwise be considered blasphemous, like "gosh darn", or "Jiminy Cricket". Anyone know it?

Profile
 
 
Posted: 10 June 2003 11:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1495
Joined  2002-08-27

There is such a term in Scandinavian languages like Swedish and Norwegian, viz, «noaord», which derives from «ord» («word») and the Polynesian «noa», which refers to the category of things which can be used without risk (i e, the opposite of «taboo»). Thus the most common term for wolf in these languages is «varg», which is said to be a noaord for the magically potent «ulv». I’m unfamiliar with any corresponding term for this type of euphemism in English, save «euphemism» itself….

Henri

 Signature 

Ad turpia nemo obligatur.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 11 June 2003 12:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  3773
Joined  2002-08-01

One expression in English that might be more appropriately descriptive than ‘euphemism’ is watered down.  To me this connotes a certain intent—to keep the basic message the same, rather than changing the meaning, which euphemisms sometimes do.

-Tim

 Signature 

For myself, I find I become less cynical rather than more… and realize that men’s hearts are not often as bad as their acts, and very seldom as bad as their words. - JRR Tolkien

Profile
 
 
Posted: 11 June 2003 12:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  571
Joined  2003-03-19

Mild oath is a good term for these epithets. Come to think of it epithet might be the word you are looking for.

Epithet carries connotations of both substitution and derision. (Now why does that bring the Mock Turtle to mind?)

DJ

 Signature 

“The obscure we see eventually, the completely&&      apparent takes longer.”——- Edward R. Murrow

Profile
 
 
Posted: 11 June 2003 02:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  360
Joined  2002-08-15

I know this is not the answer, but it puts me in mind of the expression "praising with faint d*mns".

smile

Profile
 
 
Posted: 11 June 2003 02:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  571
Joined  2003-03-19

"praising with faint d*mns"

That’s almost a spoonerism.

DJ

 Signature 

“The obscure we see eventually, the completely&&      apparent takes longer.”——- Edward R. Murrow

Profile
 
 
Posted: 12 June 2003 08:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  880
Joined  2002-08-01

[quote author=demijohn link=board=what;num=1055206480;start=0#6 date=06/11/03 at 11:44:19]That’s almost a spoonerism.

You mean snooperism?  ;)

 Signature 

Agoraphile

Profile
 
 
Posted: 27 August 2003 12:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1495
Joined  2002-08-27

Roget provides

The use or an instance of equivocal language: ambiguity, equivocation, equivoque, hedge, prevarication, shuffle, tergiversation, weasel word. Informal : waffle.

none of which, however, seems to fit very well….

Henri

 Signature 

Ad turpia nemo obligatur.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 28 August 2003 03:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
Jr. Member
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  46
Joined  2003-08-07

The use or an instance of equivocal language: ambiguity, equivocation, equivoque, hedge, prevarication, shuffle, tergiversation, weasel word. Informal : waffle.


With a similar meaning but slightly different connotation, "Jesuitical".

EdW

 Signature 

Imagination is more inportant than knowledge. - A. Einstein

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 August 2003 02:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
Newbie
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  2
Joined  2003-08-28

Bowdlerism, I think.  

Profile
 
 
Posted: 22 September 2003 05:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1495
Joined  2002-08-27

Welcome to our forum, dragonfly, and what an excellent word (the word, rather than the process or result of emasculation it describes, which I personally abhor) ! Why don’t you propose it as WotD ?...

Henri

 Signature 

Ad turpia nemo obligatur.

Profile