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Posted: 14 April 2004 07:25 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Luxembourguese????

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Posted: 14 April 2004 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Luxemburger...! ;D

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Posted: 14 April 2004 02:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Hm…Burgher de Luxe?

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Posted: 14 April 2004 05:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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According to the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, 1978,
the country is—Luxemburg,
the adjective is—Luxemburg,
a citizen is—a Luxemberger
(note the "e" following the "b," Tim),
the languages are—French and German
and the currency is—the Belgian or Luxemburg Franc.

Would anyone like to know how to refer to a person who carries a passport issued by the Vatican?

Cheers, BNJTOKYO

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Posted: 14 April 2004 05:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Would anyone like to know how to refer to a person who carries a passport issued by the Vatican?

"Your Holiness"?

Sorry, we roman refugees can never resist an opportunity. What is the correct term?  gailr

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Posted: 14 April 2004 09:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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LOL… gail, I think bnj was asking if we wanted to know the correct and polite way to refer to such a person… wink

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Posted: 15 April 2004 12:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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According to the same source I got Luxemberger from,
Gailr, a citizen of the Vatican is called a Vatican citizen.  The people of the Vatican are called . . . citizens of the Vatican.   Believe it or not.

Cheers, BNJTOKYO

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Posted: 15 April 2004 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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[quote author=bnjtokyo link=board=what;num=1081974326;start=0#7 date=04/15/04 at 09:21:55]According to the same source I got Luxemberger from,
Gailr, a citizen of the Vatican is called a Vatican citizen.  The people of the Vatican are called . . . citizens of the Vatican.   Believe it or not.

Cheers, BNJTOKYO

Better Luxemberger than Limburger, I guess!   wink


The CIA World Factbook doesn’t give the term used to describe the citizens of Luxembourg, but it does give the official long and short names, both conventional and local:

Country name:  
conventional long form: Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
conventional short form: Luxembourg
local short form: Luxembourg
local long form: Grand Duche de Luxembourg  

Area - comparative:   slightly smaller than Rhode Island  

. . . and they have a full vote in the UN and NATO . . .  and no, Rhode Island, you can’t leave the Union; we already tried that.   wink

In the CIA World Factbook, Vatican City is listed under Holy See (Vatican City).  I didn’t realize how small it really is:  

Country name:  
conventional long form: The Holy See (State of the Vatican City)
conventional short form: Holy See (Vatican City)
local short form: Santa Sede (Citta del Vaticano)
local long form: Santa Sede (Stato della Citta del Vaticano)  

. . . Suffrage:  limited to cardinals less than 80 years old  

. . . Area - comparative:   about 0.7 times the size of The Mall in Washington, DC

. . . Geography - note:   urban; landlocked; enclave in Rome, Italy; world’s smallest state; outside the Vatican City, 13 buildings in Rome and Castel Gandolfo (the pope’s summer residence) enjoy extraterritorial rights.

. . . Labor force - by occupation:  essentially services with a small amount of industry; note - dignitaries, priests, nuns, guards, and 3,000 lay workers live outside the Vatican    

I’m a native Warshintonian—I KNOW how big (or small) the Mall is!

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Posted: 15 April 2004 02:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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So based on the Mall Scale, where does Luxemborg fit in? A quarter-mall, perhaps. :-  

Europeans are so…um…so…um….FEW. smile

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Posted: 15 April 2004 06:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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We’re not so few, we just live together on smaller areas (at least some of us do).
In Flanders there are over 400 people per square km (337 for Belgium as a whole). Compare that to about 30 people per square km in the US.

According to the CIA Factbook, Belgium is about the size of Maryland, but it has appr. 10.3 million citizens, compared to Maryland’s 5.3 million.

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Posted: 16 April 2004 12:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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[quote author=bnjtokyo link=board=what;num=1081974326;start=0#4 date=04/15/04 at 02:38:41]According to the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, 1978,
the country is—Luxemburg,
the adjective is—Luxemburg,
a citizen is—a Luxemberger
(note the "e" following the "b," Tim),
the languages are—French and German
and the currency is—the Belgian or Luxemburg Franc.

Would anyone like to know how to refer to a person who carries a passport issued by the Vatican?

Cheers, BNJTOKYO

Actually my recollection is that they are called (in French at least) Luxembourgeoise.  Also, they have their own dialect that is a mix of French and German.  Flash: I just double checked.

Despite its cosmopolitan character, Luxembourg has been able to retain its originality, which is structured around its national language, "lëtzebuergesch", and its way of life which combines the Latin and Germanic worlds.

See:
Over a thousand years of history


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Posted: 16 April 2004 03:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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[quote author=Palewriter link=board=what;num=1081974326;start=0#9 date=04/15/04 at 23:45:45]So based on the Mall Scale, where does Luxemborg fit in? A quarter-mall, perhaps. :-  

Europeans are so…um…so…um….FEW. smile

- Pw

It’s about the size of Rhode Island, which is a good bit larger than The Mall:

Area——- Ranked 50th
 - Total—4,005 km²
 - Land—2,709 km²
 - Water—1,296 km²
 - % water—32.4%

Population—Ranked 43rd  
 - Total (2000)—1,048,319
 - Density—262/km²
 

Um, let’s see, for us non-metric folks, that’s 1,546 square miles total, 1,046 square miles land, considerably larger than The Mall.  The entire city of Warshinton (spelled with an "r" as pronounced by a native), DC was 100 square miles when it was first established, but by an act of Congress, the area south of the Potomac (about 39 square miles) was returned to Virginia on July 9, 1846.  Congress didn’t think they needed the extra space at that time.  I’m sure the Mayor now wishes he had that land in his tax base.   wink

From Wikipedia

History

Washington was selected as the site of the national capital city after a sitdown dinner deal between Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton. Jefferson agreed to support Hamilton’s banking and federal bond plans in exchange for the choice of a Southern locale for the capital. It was initially 100 square miles.

Don’t you just love old-fashioned politics?   :D  Actually, it was located about mid-way between the northern and southern geographical (and I suppose the political, also) extremes of the nation at that time; not in the North and not in the Deep South.

. . . The signing of the Residence Bill on July 16, 1790 established a site along the Potomac River as the District of Columbia (seat of government) of the United States. Land for the district was given to the federal government by the states of Virginia and Maryland and the city was named after George Washington. On February 27, 1801 the district was placed under the jurisdiction of the United States Congress. The town of Georgetown already existed at the time.

. . . According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 177.0 km² (68.3 mi²). 159.0 km² (61.4 mi²) of it is land and 18.0 km² (6.9 mi²) of it is water. The total area is 10.16% water.

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Posted: 16 April 2004 04:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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[quote author=Spiff link=board=what;num=1081974326;start=0#10 date=04/16/04 at 03:31:53]We’re not so few, we just live together on smaller areas (at least some of us do).
In Flanders there are over 400 people per square km (337 for Belgium as a whole). Compare that to about 30 people per square km in the US.

According to the CIA Factbook, Belgium is about the size of Maryland, but it has appr. 10.3 million citizens, compared to Maryland’s 5.3 million.

Yes, but that 30 person per km[sup]2[/sup] average for the USA includes Alaska, which only has 1.1 person per mile[sup]2[/sup]!!  (Alaska covers a geographical area of approximately 1,481,354 km[sup]2[/sup]!)  So including Alaska in those numbers throws off the entire average.

I would think a more useful comparison (let’s face it, you can’t practically compare a country the size of the US with Holland or Belgium) would be New Jersey.  I know the land area of Maryland may be closer, but New Jersey is a more appropriate all around comparison for that region, as far as geographical layout, etc.

New Jersey covers approx. 19,210 km[sup]2[/sup], with about 438 persons per km[sup]2[/sup], and a 2001 total population estimate of 8,484,431.

-Tim

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Posted: 16 April 2004 05:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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   Dear Tim,

   Dr. Language wrote: Take a look at the rules of the game so that you understand that only civil communication will be allowed here.  

   I have it in writing and it is legal.
   
   Sincerely,
   Brian Costello

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Posted: 16 April 2004 08:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Isn´t it Luxembourgeois for a man and Luxembourgeoise for a woman? But English isn´t very fond of masculines and feminines, so we´d have to settle down to one form only, I guess the masculine?

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Posted: 16 April 2004 08:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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LUXEMBOURGER

I guess we are stuck with just one form in English!

Luxembourger

Luxembourgish

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