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Posted: 08 December 2003 02:58 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I am interested in etymology of ‘forgive’

Middle English forgiven, from Old English forgiefan; see ghabh- in Indo-European roots.]

Does anyone have any insight into this?  What is ghabh?

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Posted: 08 December 2003 03:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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DHM - welcome to the Agora!

Bartleby.com has a great site for IE roots.  Here’s the link to the one you seek:

ENTRY: ghabh-

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Posted: 08 December 2003 06:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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DMH1953,

I thought it quite interesting to find that the Greek word for "forgive" aphiemi (af-ee’-ay-mee) is used in two biblical passages in the same way.  I have heard it said also that in its original source or root, it also had connotations of the word meaning to "exhale" or to breathe out, as in the last of the cycle of osmosis.

In these two passages; the word "forgive" and the phrase "yielded up" is the same identical root word in the Greek.

This, I am sure is not the complete thing that you are looking for, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Mark 11:25
And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

Matthew 27:50
Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

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Posted: 09 December 2003 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Forgive is a cognate of the German vergeben, which means to "forgive", "give away" or "distribute incorrectly".  The meaning of "forgive" comes from the sense of giving someone a gift while one actually has a claim on that person.

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