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Posted: 17 September 2002 02:02 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Aghhh! Why don’t people think about what they are saying? I suppose what they mean is "friendly to the environment", in the same way as "user-friendly" means "friendly to the user". So it’s got to be "environment-friendly", surely? "Environmentally friendly" would mean "friendly in an environmental sort of way", whatever that would be!  ::)

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Posted: 17 September 2002 02:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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You’re absolutely right. I’d never thought about it, even though I’ve written a fair bit on environmental issues.

But the phrase may have won too much acceptance to
be changed. It’s what Fowler called a ‘sturdy indefensible.’

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Posted: 17 September 2002 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It’s a deeper sickness, though, isn’t it? Environment and environmental have now taken on all sorts of baggage. If you’re sitting in a smoky pub and you announce "I want to preserve the environment", people deduce that you don’t mean your current environment, or indeed any specific environment - in fact, you’re just making a woolly statement of "Green" concern that is so vague as to be information-free. And it’s this environmental concern that is the "environmental way" things can be "environmentally friendly". So the phrase’s construction is acceptable, I think: it just teeters atop a pretty meaningless tower of words.

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Posted: 17 September 2002 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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So the phrase’s construction is acceptable, I think: it just teeters atop a pretty meaningless tower of words.


But I’m pretty sure that the "-friendly" structure is a borrowing from the German, where you get "umweltfreudlich" (in this instance) and "benutzerfreundlich" (meaning "user-friendly"). In both instances the first part of the compound word is definitely a noun, not an adverb, as is the case with "user-friendly". If anything, I’m arguing for consistency in word-formation.

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Posted: 18 September 2002 06:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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[quote author=Gillian link=board=grammar;num=1032274943;start=0#3 date=09/18/02 at 04:43:54]If anything, I’m arguing for consistency in word-formation.

OK, sorry. I thought you were saying the construction made no sense.

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Posted: 19 September 2002 12:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Ahh, yes, environment.  You are indeed correct about the baggage.  Part of the issue is that the word has come to be a synonym for "nature" although technically it doesn’t necessarily mean the same thing, or at least not from the same perspective.

Nature is a thing or realm in and of itself, not dependent on any relationship to humanity per se.  The term, environment, however, implies a human subjectivity in relationship to the natural world surounding it.  An environment is an environment to or for something else.

I could go on with this.  When I was working on my Ph.D. the focus of my research was on rhetorical constructions of the concept of nature and the environment.

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