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Posted: 11 December 2004 02:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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The reverse phenomenon occurs in Swedish. Maybe you are familiar with the cartoon character Andy Capp, always wearing a characteristic cap. A similar thing is called a "keps" in Swedish.

Another case is interesting in that English borrowed a word from Swedish - and returned it! A cookie is a "kaka". We now still have the "kaka", but also "kex"; sing. = plur. (<cakes) for biscuits (crackers).

We also lent the woman’s name Helga to the Russians. They changed it to Olga, and we got it back in that shape.

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Posted: 12 December 2004 04:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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how odd Anders, in my Grandmother’s vocabulary Kaka wasn’t cookie at all and she was 1st generation Swedish.  Kaka in our home at least wasn’t anything edible......altho’ it might once have been a cookie.

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Posted: 12 December 2004 08:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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We seem to be approaching cacography… Which, however, really means just bad handwriting. Cacology isn’t the science of words derived from the Greek kakós ‘bad’, but a improper selection of words, b bad pronunciation.

The noun "kaka" has (and has had) very few Swedish meanings other than different edibles. Exceptions are only names for ingots in metallurgy and similar technical usages, and bikaka ‘honeycomb’. The plural kakur dates back to 1533, the modern plural kakor first appeared in the 1541 Bible.

There is, however, a rare word kacka, that is, both a’s are short, meaning ‘defecate’. Nowadays it is probably only used jokingly and/or in an archaistic sense.

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Posted: 21 December 2004 04:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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There is, however, a rare word kacka, that is, both a’s are short, meaning ‘defecate’. Nowadays it is probably only used jokingly and/or in an archaistic sense.

In any event, don’t do in your own nest....

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Posted: 21 December 2004 09:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Good advice Henri

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Posted: 09 November 2005 06:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Just a related, irrelevant fact.

Modern humans are classified as Homo sapiens sapiens--i.e., the "sapiens" variety of the species Homo sapiens.

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Posted: 09 November 2005 09:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Yeah, I’ve always liked that the knowing knowing man.

I know that you know that I know.......

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Posted: 10 November 2005 03:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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otherwise known as homo sap.sap. as telling a name as can be.
note:We are alone, absolutely alone on this chance
planet: and, amid all the forms of life that
surround us, not one, excepting the dog, has made an
alliance with us.
           -- Maurice Maeterlinck

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[cats, oc, are symbiotic not allied]

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Posted: 10 November 2005 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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otherwise known as homo sap.sap. as telling a name as can be.
note:We are alone, absolutely alone on this chance
planet: and, amid all the forms of life that
surround us, not one, excepting the dog, has made an
alliance with us.
           -- Maurice Maeterlinck

And he won a Nobel Prize in literature for this grin!!!

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Posted: 14 May 2006 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Speaking as an evolutionary scientist - VERY few people accept Homo sapiens sapiens, the fossil distinction is negligible at very best, and when a distinction is required the term archaic is utilised. To utilise Homo sapiens sapiens forces the use of Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, and that is ridiculous! - in addition the correct format is Capitalisation down to the spieces level which is NOT capitalised. So our species then, in the Linnaean system, will be Eukarya Animalia Chordata Vertebrata Mammalia Primates Hominidae Homo sapiens. - Have Fun.  :)

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Posted: 14 May 2006 09:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Eukarya Animalia Chordata Vertebrata Mammalia Primates Hominidae Homo sapiens.

Which proves that the first human language ever spoken was euskara (also known as Basque).  ;D

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Posted: 08 June 2006 03:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Recently I’ve read a couple of times about Jonny Wilkinson (captain of the England rugby team) having a bruised bicep. Bicep? Seems like we English speakers abhor singular words which end in consonant-s, and try to make them plurals.

Distinguished athletes notwithstanding, brave Jonah, it will come as no surprise to hear one of our brilliant, esteemed oncologists identify singular polyps by the same back-formation (or better yet deformation): "polyp"!  Even in medical terminology--alas, so it would seem--both English & scientific Latin (i.e. with Greek antecedents) can really sustain a most turpacious "bruising" as such.

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkol hével Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important! Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 10 June 2006 11:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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one of our brilliant, esteemed oncologists identify singular polyps by the same back-formation (or better yet deformation): "polyp"!

Singular vs. plural is fun. In Swedish, we have räls from ‘rails’, and most everybody sees it as a singular noun. Only railway professionals and translators use räl in the singular. Same for keps, the headgear favoured by Andy Capp but no singular form in use. A third one is the Scandinavian singular kaka, kake, kage which was temporarlily loaned to English and then returned as ‘cookies’ to make a Swedish kex (IPA [keks]).

My favourite is the somewhere found Sw. puttisar, referring to putto in the plural. So somebody took the putto, in the Italian plural, added the English s for more plural, and crowned with the Swedish plural -ar. Three or more plurals elsewhere, anyone?

I don’t react unfavourably towards the polyp (as long as I’m spared of them myself). I interpret the word as a convenient abbreviation of the Greek poly-p(ous).

My trusty ole Universal Dictionary of the English Language has polyp - polyps for the animal(s) and polypus - polypi for the tumour and the polyp(s). Considering all the mis- and non-standard-spellings we encounter, I’d say that this case is one of the least problematic.

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Posted: 12 June 2006 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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So try and indulge me here, brer Anders, for I shall tell all humanity the whole truth about being a lousy, Gastarbeiter Swede, living in any strange hinterland as shamelessly enamoured of its superimposed, Anglo-American heritage upon everyone else.  Nor do I expect my very own, Stedman’s med. dictionary to contribute much either, regarding the derivation & orthography of enigmatic polyps.  Nay indeed, especially when the real money lies in visual recognition & taxonomic identification of said outgrowth, while a profound education in classical studies & history of the English language serves only to detract from so many, tyrannical sanctions of blind professionalism and coincidentally, the wretched attainment of that solitary, medical degree--whoooa, Nelly!

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1.  הכל הבל׃ hakkol hével Qohelet 1:2 “all (is) vanity” KJV loc. cit.
2.  [οἱ] ἔσχατοι πρῶτοι [Textus Receptus] Mark 10:31 novissimi primi Vulg. “last (shall be) first” ibid.
3.  ’Tis the path you take in life that’s more important! Sufi wisdom

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Posted: 12 June 2006 02:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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WOW impressive!!!!!!   :o
I’m assuming the distinguished gentleman pictured is himself?

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